BaukeTue, Jun 2, 2009 Nom the Puppet: Thank you for your reply. I will try to give an answer on your questions.
would be much slower since massmedia and fast communication transport like internet will not exist anymore.
why?
I am not only speaking here about fragmenting the physical society (as in where people live) but also about the psychological effect. In the world as we know it now, we are interested in news from the other side of the world, we also provide our services to other countries, we chat with people from other religions etcetera. The community I desire, is first of all independent of other communities. A small community of a few hundred people needs most, if not all, members to work to stay independent by working on farms, teaching etcetera. Massmedia, transport- and constructioncompanies (for example for building roads) and big corporations in general need big numbers of employees. As I mentioned before there are not that many workers available after the basic jobs like hunting, farming etcetera are done. And if there were, I imagine the communities being far away from each other, connected only by paths, not highways to transport people to their jobs. Without teaming up, big companies cannot exist. And by that services like radiobroadcast, internet, trainsystems and automobiles will not exist. Eventually the techniques used for our modern lifes such as radio, computers etcetera will die out too. As wel will cease to use these techniques, nobody will care about how it works or how it's made either. And since we cannot use central databases and exchange points to exchange the knowledge, it will eventually die.
How do we prevent communities from teaming up?...we should not try to prevent as it is natural: societies build up
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I listed this one under problems but that might be to easy. I bring up my theory that civilisations will grow untill they reach a certain point and then fragment, after which they slowly build up again. I do not know if this is true but I think it's likely to happen. Still I do not know if this is a positive thing. I'm not sure whether we should stop communities from merging. Because I hold freedom as the main reason to start communities in the first place, it feels not right to actively limit them to grow or merge. But it doesn't feel right to let history repeat itself while we are watching passively. Maybe there is a way to control the growth or desire to merge without limiting the freedom of a community? If you've got any suggestions I am looking forward to hear them.
any company making products for the masses will die resulting in a lack of mass produced medicine etcetera.
why?
I answered this one in the first question.
On our planet there is no land unclaimed
what about the high seas?
Please explain! While I don't think a group of people can live independent of others on an atol or similar structure yet I am curious to hear about your idea about it.
as long as there are people there will be people disagreeing with each other.
true dat, but we still try to live together with respect and peace. plus the fact that we're debating this offers hope that we'll come to an even better agreement with each other eventually. The billions of people not killing each other outweigh the few that are.
Exactly my point, I think you read that sentence out of context because in the very next sentence I am saying that I think that despite people disagreeing we can build a better world.
Nom the Puppet: Thank you for your reply. I will try to give an answer on your questions.
I am not only speaking here about fragmenting the physical society (as in where people live) but also about the psychological effect. In the world as we know it now, we are interested in news from the other side of the world, we also provide our services to other countries, we chat with people from other religions etcetera. The community I desire, is first of all independent of other communities. A small community of a few hundred people needs most, if not all, members to work to stay independent by working on farms, teaching etcetera. Massmedia, transport- and constructioncompanies (for example for building roads) and big corporations in general need big numbers of employees. As I mentioned before there are not that many workers available after the basic jobs like hunting, farming etcetera are done. And if there were, I imagine the communities being far away from each other, connected only by paths, not highways to transport people to their jobs. Without teaming up, big companies cannot exist. And by that services like radiobroadcast, internet, trainsystems and automobiles will not exist. Eventually the techniques used for our modern lifes such as radio, computers etcetera will die out too. As wel will cease to use these techniques, nobody will care about how it works or how it's made either. And since we cannot use central databases and exchange points to exchange the knowledge, it will eventually die.
I listed this one under problems but that might be to easy. I bring up my theory that civilisations will grow untill they reach a certain point and then fragment, after which they slowly build up again. I do not know if this is true but I think it's likely to happen. Still I do not know if this is a positive thing. I'm not sure whether we should stop communities from merging. Because I hold freedom as the main reason to start communities in the first place, it feels not right to actively limit them to grow or merge. But it doesn't feel right to let history repeat itself while we are watching passively. Maybe there is a way to control the growth or desire to merge without limiting the freedom of a community? If you've got any suggestions I am looking forward to hear them.
I answered this one in the first question.
Please explain! While I don't think a group of people can live independent of others on an atol or similar structure yet I am curious to hear about your idea about it.
Exactly my point, I think you read that sentence out of context because in the very next sentence I am saying that I think that despite people disagreeing we can build a better world.