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    Human Life Worth 1000 Dollars
    Project: Start your own revolution
    Going by the standard of supply and demand, a Human life is worth as much as it costs to save the cheapest Human life, unless some people are worth more than others.

    I asked how much it costs to save the cheapest million Human lives on average in http://spacecollective.org/BenRayfield/6176/Legal-Murder-Charity  and indirectly explained how peoples' actions and what they think it costs contradict.

    Here is the answer: Human life is worth $1000. The research is summarized herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Givewell

    That means if you can save a random person's life for $2000 then you should not do it, because you could save 2 lives by spending it somewhere else. 2 random people or 1 random person? It's not a hard choice, unless you think some kinds of people are worth more than others.

    Most people like to pretend that everyone is worth as much as everyone else. I'm not talking about your friends and family compared to random people. I'm talking about comparing randomly selected people to randomly selected people. Is a Chinese person worth the same as a Canadian person? Answer yes or you're labeled a racist. But pay $2000 to save one instead of $2000 to save 2 of the other, and you're a good person instead of a racist. No. If you pay $2000 to save a random person's life, then you are judging that who you are saving is worth 2 times as much as the other. Your actions would mean 2 of these people are worth as much as 1 of those people. Now forget you read that, or try to find some reason to think I'm lieing, so you don't have to admit you think everyone is not equal. Or maybe it would be easier not to save anyone's life for $1000, because then nobody can figure out who you think is worth less than who else.

    It gets more complex. If a certain person is going to save an average of 9 other peoples' lives, and it costs $5000 to save that 1 person's life, then that's an average of $500 per life saved. That one person is worth more than those who don't save lives.

    But that's assuming life and death are the only things we should try to affect. Life isn't worth as much if you're always hungry or in jail or you hate yourself or lots of other things. I'm not saying the goal should be to save the most lives, but that should be part of it.

    Anyone can save many lives for $1000 each after learning the facts from various websites likehttp://givewell.org

    This is my question to everyone: How much is a random person's life worth to you, as a number of dollars on average? If you say "You can't put a price on Human life", then you're just avoiding the question, because the price is $1000. The price is known. That is the supply. I'm asking about the demand. Is it worth $1000 to you? Or how much is it worth, in dollars?

    Here's my answer: I explained above that a person who will save 9 lives is worth as much as themself plus some part of the 9 others, on average, adjusting for other factors than life and death, so they're worth maybe around 5 people. I am a mad-scientist and I expect what I build will work, so don't bother saying "You can't know what you're doing will save that many lives". If you read my other posts, including http://spacecollective.org/BenRayfield/6090/Artificial-Intelligence-learns-music  (which is eventually going to become a new kind of communication and improve the Human species in many ways), and if you agree with me that it will have that effect, then you will understand why it is better for me to save my money and later spend less time working at jobs than it is for me to spend that money at $1000 per life saved. I'm not trying to brag about how great I am, but this example is necessary to explain something about the most effective use of your money toward solving the world's problems.

    Bill Gates had a good strategy too... He acted in a very greedy way for many years then gave many billions of dollars to stategicly chosen charities, after hiring some people to research which charities were more efficient. That's what http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Givewell  researches. But for those who don't think they're going to change the world or get rich later, that doesn't apply.

    That's my excuse, and I think its a good one. If you could afford to lose $1000, what's your excuse? What are you doing to improve the world that makes your time too valuable to spend $1000 of time saving a life? I think most people are so afraid to answer that question that they become afraid to ask the questions that come before it. If you don't think a random person's life is worth $1000, you should at least admit it, because that would be progress. As things are now, people are afraid to ask the questions. Cowards.

    How many lives do you think will be saved on average as a result of people reading this thread? I'd guess at least 1. Therefore, since I think in a logical way to improve the world more efficiently, if an average person was going to die unless I deleted this writing and never wrote it again, I would choose to let them die instead of delete this writing. This thread is worth more than a Human life. I will not apologize for estimating the value of things when I do it to improve the world instead of for selfish reasons. So what is your excuse for not saving a life for $1000? All I really said is this thread is worth more than $1000.

    One last example. Since Human life is worth $1000 each, the 9/11/01 terrorist bombings (which killed around 3000 people) only did $3 million of damage to the world, which isn't really that important. The buildings cost more than the people were worth. There were other bad effects, but I'm talking about the value of the lives lost, not the value of the freedoms other people lost. And about the freedoms lost, is our freedom really worth less than 3 million dollars (or maybe 30 million if we expect more attacks would have followed)? Of course our freedom is worth a lot more than 30 million dollars.

    It doesn't have to be this way. We can solve these problems over time so Human life is worth more. If enough people save the cheapest Human lives, then the next cheapest would cost $1100 to save. Whatever you think Human life is worth, lets adjust the supply/demand so that much is spent on them.

    Sat, Feb 5, 2011  Permanent link
    Categories: supply, demand, charity
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    majelanik     Mon, Sep 12, 2011  Permanent link
    Human life is Worth Surviving
     
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