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    2012: End Of The World Or Full Of Crap?
    With the release of the movie "2012" a curiosity of the date has humans across the globe. What does it mean? When will it happen and Why?.

    First we look at the date December 21st 2012. The date in which a major astronomical event occurs. This is when our little piece of space dust aligns with the center of the Universe. This is a major even that happens rarely in the life time of 20 generations of humans. This is perhaps of the the greatest events in our lifetime.

    Another note is the various prophets throughout the ages have all envisioned a spectacular end. Nostradamus perhaps one of the most famous prophets was a strong beliver in the end of the world. In one his famous quatriens he stated

    The year of the great seventh number accomplished,
    It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter:
    Not far from the great millennial age,
    When the buried will go out from their tombs.

    Long awaited he will never return
    In Europe, he will appear in Asia:
    One of the league issued from the great Hermes,
    And he will grow over all the Kings of the East.

    These both refer to Christianinty as in the first one refers to judgement day while the second pretains to the second coming of Christ which coinsides with the end of the world.

    Another famous Doomsday Prophets were the Mayans. The Mayans had a calander system.Misinterpretation of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar is the basis for a New Age belief that a cataclysm will take place on December 21, 2012. December 21, 2012 is simply the last day of the 13th b'ak'tun. But that is not the end of the Long Count because the 14th through 20th b'ak'tuns are still to come.

    The prophets of doomsday don't there through history people have tried to predict the end of world. All have been wrong so far. There are many people who belive that the end of the world prophecies are a load of it. This can be understandable since none of the prophiecies have been correct for the end of the world.

    We can only hope pray that December 21st 2012 isnt the end of the world and the human race. As with anything we can only hope pray and prepare for the future.

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         Thu, Dec 10, 2009  Permanent link
    My opinion: It'll only come true if people really want it to.

    The real mayan's opinion: It's all a big fucking joke and they're an ethnic group who's gone through a terrible amount of suffering all thanks to greasy gringos, and they're not seeing any money from that awful movie based on a bunch of white asshole's idea which goes and tells them what their own cultural heritage is as if they're the expert. 
    nagash     Fri, Dec 11, 2009  Permanent link
    all prophecies are self-fulfilling...
    time is spinning very fast right now, every year we advance in huge leaps. it's more than obvious that something of importance will happen in 2012, of course it will. it can be anything - it could be a war, an invention, a grotesque tragedy, the discovery of a new energy source... any fact relevant enough to justify "the end of an era".
    it could even be something invisible at the time, but pointed back in the future - the founding date of a company, the year of some patent, the discover of a new technology, the first prototype of an intelligent machine, the list goes forever...

    so, even if nothing happens - what is my humble guess - these crazy people can still find their goat, and keep with the prophecy-circus.

    personally, I'm already sick and tired of this hysteria, and the bad news is that it's probably going to get worse... no matter how much I enjoy crazy theories, I have deep appreciation and respect for all the mesoamerican societies - Toltec, Aztec, Inca and also Maya - and it HURTS to see the shit that these folks squeeze out of their traditions. wtf? killing them all was not enough?
    Manuel Dahm     Sat, Dec 12, 2009  Permanent link
    Interestingly enough around South America are different prophecies surrounding this date, not directly applying to "the end of the world" but better expressed to change or development.

    The Inca's e.g. have a prophecy (passed on by the Q'ero, Inca ancestors that went hiding in the Andes) that the Inca ("the son of the sun") will return after 500 years of sleeping (sort of soon if Atahualpa's death in 1533 could count as a reference point) and unite in spirit with the world that existed until now, and a new time will begin.

    In my opinion, prophecies that tell of an end of the world don't refer to a catastrophe, violence, extinction, but a spiritual and cultural shift, a transformation.

    Mankind has seen these shifts many times and they were fast indeed. Think of the development of monotheism, which directly caused the greatest changes in the world in the last 2k years, happening in a rather brief moment in time, and then, it happened to small groups of people first - and took a far longer time to expand.

    One man I respect very much has explained in great detail to me the way that he see's the coming change in human development to happen. A rather small group of people around the world will shift in development/spirit/call it what you want, and this will happen unrecognized by the majority. They will spiritually exist in a parallel reality in which they cannot be recognized as what they are, but they will recognize each other. They would be seen as usual people from people that didn't do the development.

    And here it comes full circle with what Nagash writes in regards to self-fulfilling.

    Now if I believe in this or want to believe in this, then I will work very hard on myself to be part of the people that do the shift - and this will eventually become a self-fulfilled prophecy as the knowledge of the prophecy will affect my current behaviour.
    And then it will be impossible to tell if it was a prophecy or a teaching. In any case, I reckon there are lot of prophecies that didn't happen. So the right prophecies hit a mark in people, initialize change, and then the prophecy itself is part of itself coming reality.

    In that respect, I want to look at prophets not as deities from another reality, access to invisible energies, etc.etc..., but simply put people that sense things earlier then others, make observations, and are able to translate those into the right words. They are no gods, no future tellers, no miracle, just people that can listen and see very well. In that respect, let's try to see very well what really happens in 2012.

    I think we are ready for change.

    Infinitas     Sat, Dec 12, 2009  Permanent link
    I agree with Nagash on all accounts, but I have also have a special spot reserved for 2012 within me.

    I must admit, if I could pick an event or something that was the very beginning of what would lead to my spiritual/conscious development (also as I look back tracing coincidences), it would begin about 12 years ago with my older brother telling me about a Mayan prophecy and an ancient timeline on a wall in one of the great Giza pyramids which climbed up a ramp and ended with the year 2012 where there was a bottomless pit. I was hooked. The whole 2012 thing has evolved in so many way within my mind since then, but without it all, I wouldn't be who I am today and therefore there is a significance about it.

    I don't have faith in something happening but hope. I look forward to 2012 in anticipation of a sort of "rebirth," which is what many ancient civilizations have talked about. But rebirth may include death...lots of it; I think rebirth and death are almost interchangeable to a certain extent. I really have begun to view all aspects of life and the universe as cyclical. I think this is part of the wisdom that has been lost with many ancient cultures. 2012 may just be the end of an age and the beginning of a new one.

    HelloAlexCL made a comment on my On Global Awareness post about some sort of catastrophe that causes global awareness. This is another way I look at 2012.

    Better safe than sorry. If there is a shift in consciousness where some could be left behind, I surely don't want to be one of them. I don't plan on going to any "End of the World" parties. If nothing happens then no big deal.

    This site seems to have a lot of varied information about it.  I especially like the Hopi indian's prophecy.