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Claudia Gallardo (F)
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    “If we had a keen vision of all that is ordinary in human life, it would be like hearing the grass grow or the squirrel's heart beat, and we should die of that roar which is the other side of silence”

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    I went for a walk today and started thinking about perception. It felt like a walk, but it was actually a drive on the PCH towards Newport Beach.
    About perception:
    The perception is incompatible with consciousness, because "perception" is created based on the existing mnemic traces. The mnemic trace is suppose to be like a mirror of an elementary reality in a hyper complex construction. When we perceive things, we obviously not just perceiving them based on whatever situation we have in front of us, but based on the impressions that already exist in our unconscious memory. It is very basic, all data we've learn we use to create and process new information, and it keeps growing and growing...the more information we take, the more information we create.

    A"brake" in the information, in the logic order would cause an "erosion" of person hood, but it would also open the door to perceive things in different ways, or to perceive new things.
    It's fascinating and frighting to desire the machine to have a small inconsistency. It would be like being a totally different person, maybe exceptionally brilliant, maybe absolutely crazy, or a person who believes to be an alien who came from another planet.
    At the same, I've never felt attracted to the kind of people who pretend to be different just to be different. Different without the sense of adventure or discovery. I would be in just to see if the world it's really how we know it, of course, I probably wouldn't be aware of that after the switch is turned off, and on again.

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    folkert     Tue, Sep 18, 2007  Permanent link
    It's fascinating and frighting to desire the machine to have a small inconsistency. It would be like being a totally different person, maybe exceptionally brilliant, maybe absolutely crazy

    Very nicely put. You know there are various shortcuts to do that kind of thing. But that is for a different conversation. In any case, it's good to be aware of what you call the pre-existing impressions, or what others sometimes call the map is not the territory.

    See also: The Treachery Of Images

    HumanApparatus     Wed, Sep 19, 2007  Permanent link
    Yes yes...I thought about the shortcuts to get there, and I thought of YOU, tell me why!! hehe Although, I wonder if there is a way to achieve it without—If somehow erasing a small part; something we think as not important at all, could result in a drastic change in our perception.
    HumanApparatus     Wed, Sep 19, 2007  Permanent link
    Ok..maybe if I keep reading about perception I will finally achieve that "small inconsistency"...agh.
    Hey, maybe I have already achieved it, and I don't know : O
    folkert     Wed, Sep 19, 2007  Permanent link
    Yes I am sure there are many ways of achieving that up to a point. And that can be life-changing enough. What I am talking about—sweeping revelations of the inner workings of the machinery of reality and our small part in it that we call consciousness—simply cannot be achieved by "other means".

    But I like your notion of the "small inconsistency". To insert some McKenna: consciousness is like a still pool, when unperturbed, it returns a mirror image of itself. But when it is disturbed (by throwing a rock in it or something), it suddenly reveals all sort of things about itself and it is opened up for the inspection by the individual. And the small inconsistency is a nice start!