Currently we lack the tools that will allow us to relate to your question in a really effective way.
well, given that we are a tools creating civilization we might just be able to create those very tools we are currently lacking, that relates to my incentive (and consequent project) to create a new kind of language, for language is at core a tool. In a previous statement you say that the issue is not linguistic, well, I beg to differ here, for as I see it, the issue is very much linguistic, if only for the simple reason that philosophy and metaphysics use language to describe both their subject matter and their self referencing systems of thought. Moreover, the very construct of our higher faculties, namely the faculty of abstraction, relies on the semantics and semiotics of linguistic constructs. (see Derrida’s ‘of grammatology’ ) these in turn create the foundation for thought, so we may see here a circular, closely coupled system of creation of Vision, from self referencing imaging to the meaning that is applicable to the abstraction of the idea and back via the grammar of ‘verbing’ (putting into verbs) on to motivation, incentive and finally action.
Spaceweaver:
’If our future needs a grand planning project, and it seems to me that it critically needs one, I would start with the philosophical foundations of our future mind habitat. I would try to focus on how to ask the big questions in a manner that escapes the simplistic goal oriented perspective of evolution especially when it comes to our evolution as conscious beings.”
agreed, we need a grand planning project, a vision if you like and a unifying vision at that. A unified and unifying vision that will transcend the current divide both in goals, their meanings, and applications and in motives, their origination, and consequences.
You continue by stating that we need to focus on how to ask the big questions, and in that I agree, yet for these very questions to carry the heavy weight of escaping simplistic goal oriented perspectives we need again a language, a language that will carry the new meanings of our existence.
My first suggestion is to redefine the word ‘natural’.
Spaceweaver:
well, given that we are a tools creating civilization we might just be able to create those very tools we are currently lacking, that relates to my incentive (and consequent project) to create a new kind of language, for language is at core a tool. In a previous statement you say that the issue is not linguistic, well, I beg to differ here, for as I see it, the issue is very much linguistic, if only for the simple reason that philosophy and metaphysics use language to describe both their subject matter and their self referencing systems of thought. Moreover, the very construct of our higher faculties, namely the faculty of abstraction, relies on the semantics and semiotics of linguistic constructs. (see Derrida’s ‘of grammatology’ ) these in turn create the foundation for thought, so we may see here a circular, closely coupled system of creation of Vision, from self referencing imaging to the meaning that is applicable to the abstraction of the idea and back via the grammar of ‘verbing’ (putting into verbs) on to motivation, incentive and finally action.
Spaceweaver:
agreed, we need a grand planning project, a vision if you like and a unifying vision at that. A unified and unifying vision that will transcend the current divide both in goals, their meanings, and applications and in motives, their origination, and consequences.
You continue by stating that we need to focus on how to ask the big questions, and in that I agree, yet for these very questions to carry the heavy weight of escaping simplistic goal oriented perspectives we need again a language, a language that will carry the new meanings of our existence.
My first suggestion is to redefine the word ‘natural’.