connorThu, Oct 30, 2008 I think we are on the same page here.
I agree, it is important to work out the details of the long term vision, and I see a lot of that happening. But as dmitridb puts it in his post, the people controlling this system are the ones who are able to take action. I think that there are numerous polytopian dreams that could be very detrimental to humanity if implemented in the wrong context.
I have suggested in dimitridb's post that we start defining all of the problems / hurdles that we could come across on the path to the future that the Space Collective would like to see. As with any design problem, the first step to the solution is having a clear understanding of the problem that you wish to solve.
I think that if we could get people within Space Collective to put their minds together to clearly define these problems, we could then order them into some sort of chronological manner (short term / long term / etc). Once we had that map laid out, we could then create scenario's and solutions to try to find the most practical path to our future.
Oh, and regarding this:
Relying solely on emergence for this process is of course possible and fine to be optimistic about, but its kind of a seat-of-the-pants approach.
It won't be relying on emergence. Speaking of emergence isn't a fatalistic approach. By actively working towards a new system, we are not working against emergence, our interest in helping this idea is proving that this idea is emerging. The more people that will decide that they will help this idea, the more it is proving that this is an "idea whose time has arrived"
I think we are on the same page here.
I agree, it is important to work out the details of the long term vision, and I see a lot of that happening. But as dmitridb puts it in his post, the people controlling this system are the ones who are able to take action. I think that there are numerous polytopian dreams that could be very detrimental to humanity if implemented in the wrong context.
I have suggested in dimitridb's post that we start defining all of the problems / hurdles that we could come across on the path to the future that the Space Collective would like to see. As with any design problem, the first step to the solution is having a clear understanding of the problem that you wish to solve.
I think that if we could get people within Space Collective to put their minds together to clearly define these problems, we could then order them into some sort of chronological manner (short term / long term / etc). Once we had that map laid out, we could then create scenario's and solutions to try to find the most practical path to our future.
Oh, and regarding this:
It won't be relying on emergence. Speaking of emergence isn't a fatalistic approach. By actively working towards a new system, we are not working against emergence, our interest in helping this idea is proving that this idea is emerging. The more people that will decide that they will help this idea, the more it is proving that this is an "idea whose time has arrived"