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Aimee Smith (F)
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    I've been studying my dreams for quite a few years now.

    For me the world of dreams presents word play and symbolism in an attempt to convey information about myself. It's fascinating to speculate that there is another language between my subconscious and conscious while I sleep which requires the cracking of code to just scrape the surface of goodies in there.

    I've established a method of interpreting my own dreams.
    Writing down each detail is helpful in triggering memories, but also in analyzing words and themes. A message may not necessarily be encrypted in the imagery of a dream. It could be the literal definitions of those images that hint at, or produce a solution. I'll sometimes marvel that something has just been "spelled out" for me.

    I find that I’m much more receptive in the thick of night when my mind is still floating half between slumber and a coherent state. The most odd symbols are punctuated with a clarity that during the day would just seem surreal and unexplainable.

    A friend suggested maintaining a journal as if trying to explain your dreams to someone from a different planet that has no concept of this world. For example, if in your dream you are in a car, you could explain that you are in a vehicle that transports you from one place to another. Depending on your own personal experiences, the description of a dog could be a companion that depends on you and that you have loving bond with or it could be an unpredictable animal capable of doing harm. My theories fluctuate here but it would seem that symbolism in dreams would be specific to the individual. Jung's theory of collective archetypes, however, seem to infiltrate my dream world. The age-old symbol of a snake is a repetitive theme in my dreams since I was very young. If I don't consider myself to be religious in the traditional sense does that eliminate The Garden of Eden's serpent from the symbolic possibilities of interpretation? Or is that a universal image that transcends personal beliefs?

    Assuming that their purpose is to process thoughts, feelings, and experiences, make sense of problems, or guide us with premonitions, do our dreams still go to work for us attaining the same therapeutic results if left to their own devices? Or without acknowledgement and interpretation are they washed aside and their message lost?

    Are we even remotely close to utilizing our dreamtime in the fullest to work out issues?

    It will be exciting to see where technology can advance to further help us illustrate our dreams and better interpret them. I'm imagining miniature suction cups hooked up to our temples transmitting thought waves to a high def screen projecting the most Dahli-esque images from the utterly strange and beautiful world of our sub conscious.

    My dream state has provided me with juicy bits of information about myself that have been helpful in understanding why I am what I am, and why things affect me the way they do, and how I develop my relationships with the people close and far from me.

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    folkert     Sun, Jun 10, 2007  Permanent link
    This is the answer to my question about thinking without language—you've answered it completely. Thanks. (the visual language of the mind is obviously the form of communication when there is no syntax.) And I agree with the need for a hi-def translator of these signals, it would change everything.
    Xarene     Sun, Jul 8, 2007  Permanent link
    I 'try' to write my dreams. Check this website: tcup

    Maybe this can fall in the language discussion too. The way I experience my dreams (and what I believe them to be) are as if another me is existing in a parallel world, except that in that world, the logic and physics of how things happen and work is different than this world. In a sense, the language is different. I've never read about language, but I guess that our language is dictated, among other things, by logic.

    Weird enough, these two worlds—or however many there are—are somehow interconnected. That's where dream interpretation makes sense. It is understanding the language of the other world and translating it into our language.
    cupcakewizard     Mon, Jul 9, 2007  Permanent link
    Thanks for the link Xarene- that's a fabulous site. I like the concept that dreams are in another language. Because of this, they command special attention, and ask us to stretch beyond what is in the convenient reaches of our everyday communications and expressions. That tells me there is some good stuff floating around for us to discover.
    alborz     Tue, Jul 10, 2007  Permanent link
    Back when we lived less linear lives - believed in multiple nature gods, multiple and simultaneous creation stories, multiple plains of existence and so on - we seemed to give more credence to our dreams. Perhaps our dreams are echoes of our past nonlinear minds. Or conversely, perhaps the visceral dream experience shaped our early ways of thinking. We used to live our dreams (?). We used to speak our dreams (?).

    Language used to be nonlinear, symbolic. Perhaps that had something to do with our dreams.

    P.S.: That tcup site is quite fabulous.
    Xarene     Tue, Jul 10, 2007  Permanent link
    What I find interesting is that over time I've learned this odd non-linear language/ logic of my dreams. They have not even been recurring dreams or even recurring events. Therefore I have not learned from repeated 'practice' per se, but I've learned by putting aside the way of thinking I've been programmed into, and accept the dream events and logic as possible. I should do some semiotics reading...

    Yes, I'd agree current regimented ways of life have affected our way of thinking about our dreams (for many, even not thinking about them). Didn't Native Indians do what you're saying, Al, dream their way of life and, live not just their dreams, but their ancestors'?

    folkert     Tue, Jul 10, 2007  Permanent link
    I guess this is similar to the comments about maps and orientation, and in this case again I feel that even though our syntactical form of language may seem confined, it simply is a set of restrictions that allow us as individuals as well as a species to create functioning systems and protocols necessary for navigating the bodies and societies that we are inhabiting.

    The visual language that we are reminded of in our dreams is from a place where far less of such restrictions are needed because there is no meat-body, no meat-brain, no gravity, no nervous system, etc.

    I also agree that we should make an escape forward to a state of mind that is more informed by this universal "language".