dmitridbSat, Jan 19, 2008 Xárene: Thanks for your very insightful comments. However, socialized health care may be pretty nice but it's not perfectly safe in this day and age. There's an interesting example happening of socialized health care and social stratification of the kind you talk about happening if the US had it where I live in Victoria, BC, Canada: Funding for socialized healthcare for the mentally ill was dropped significantly by the provincial government, (Headed by a general asswipe named, and yes his title is "honorable", Premier Gordon Campbell who landed a DUI in Hawaii and never got shit for it) and as a result the homeless population has skyrocketed in Vancouver and Victoria. Since the folks who go bananas without family to support them also have their legal guardian (The government) also stop giving a fuck, they don't really have anywhere to go besides becoming yet another incredibly disadvantaged, disregarded, and disrespected citizen of the street. If you really want to get deep in the matter, it all boils down to the fact that governments treat us only as commercial entities. Study some law and find out what a "strawman" (as some call it) is for more information on this.
Going back to the always awesome black panthers, did you know that the US government did some really really really fucked up disinformation campaigns against them back in the 60's? They mass mailed these "black panther coloring books" out saying that they were from the black panthers after failing to convince the organization with an undercover agent to distribute them:
You have to take a look a them for yourself. They're so disgusting when you realize who they actually came from.
I also just discovered while looking around for that how some asshole (This is from a bit less than 10 years ago) still presented this as official black panther stuff in a university sociology course:
Xárene: Thanks for your very insightful comments. However, socialized health care may be pretty nice but it's not perfectly safe in this day and age. There's an interesting example happening of socialized health care and social stratification of the kind you talk about happening if the US had it where I live in Victoria, BC, Canada: Funding for socialized healthcare for the mentally ill was dropped significantly by the provincial government, (Headed by a general asswipe named, and yes his title is "honorable", Premier Gordon Campbell who landed a DUI in Hawaii and never got shit for it) and as a result the homeless population has skyrocketed in Vancouver and Victoria. Since the folks who go bananas without family to support them also have their legal guardian (The government) also stop giving a fuck, they don't really have anywhere to go besides becoming yet another incredibly disadvantaged, disregarded, and disrespected citizen of the street. If you really want to get deep in the matter, it all boils down to the fact that governments treat us only as commercial entities. Study some law and find out what a "strawman" (as some call it) is for more information on this.
Going back to the always awesome black panthers, did you know that the US government did some really really really fucked up disinformation campaigns against them back in the 60's? They mass mailed these "black panther coloring books" out saying that they were from the black panthers after failing to convince the organization with an undercover agent to distribute them:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/coloring.html
You have to take a look a them for yourself. They're so disgusting when you realize who they actually came from.
I also just discovered while looking around for that how some asshole (This is from a bit less than 10 years ago) still presented this as official black panther stuff in a university sociology course:
http://www.nd.edu/~dmyers/courses/old/102au98/blpan.html
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