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    nagash     Sat, Dec 5, 2009  Permanent link
    I followed the link you posted and, after reading some other texts about Shilajit, I'm eager to discover where could I find it here in Brazil. I recently read about adaptogens but I though they existed only in herb or fungi varieties... a mineral pitch that oozes from the Himalayan mountains is something really and amusingly bizarre : )

    but let me ask you... where did you read that it decalcify the pineal gland? I know that it's good for everything in our body, but it kinds of contradict the overall rock-strength / rock-like proprieties atribbuted to Shilajit - "the power to make our body like a rock enabling it to withstand the ravages of time..."

    I though the calcification of the pineal gland were not reversible...
    by the way, do you know that most people nowadays have it completely calcified by younger age, because of the fluorine on toothpastes and even the water suppy? it's so widespread that they use it to detect brain tumors (the pineal shows like a white spot in x-rays, just like a bone). one can say that modern life take our dreams away, and really mean it lol
    SAILOR     Mon, Dec 7, 2009  Permanent link
    Worth a try.
    Infinitas     Mon, Dec 7, 2009  Permanent link
    I've done a bit of internet research on this. I never came across the use of humic and fulvic acid, though I have always pondered its health benefits. But there is a compound called EDTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDTA) which may help in decalcifying the pineal gland. I have seen it sold as pills in vitamin/supplement stores. Sometimes it is sold with metal ions already bound to its structure (not good), so make sure you get the right kind. Most psychedelics would probably help too...at least temporarily.
    collective matt     Mon, Dec 14, 2009  Permanent link
    I'd like to decalcify my pineal gland, but I think I'm with Infinitas here. Shamans have used Psilocybin mushrooms for years.
    Infinitas     Mon, Dec 14, 2009  Permanent link
    Cheers to that!

    I have always wondered if people, specifically in the US, prior to the 1950s were more physiologically capable of having natural hallucinations, moments of extreme clarity and spiritual experiences than we can today.
    nagash     Tue, Dec 15, 2009  Permanent link
    Infinitas,
    do you know what triggers the pineal gland? darkness.
    nowadays, when the night falls, we turn the lights on. some people keep it lighted even during the sleep. there are so much light in our cities that we can't see the stars. and inside us, it's just like outside. so, guess you can imagine that prior 1950s, people had plenty of darkness to make their spirit shine ; )
    Infinitas     Tue, Dec 15, 2009  Permanent link
    Interesting point. I was thinking more along the lines of fluorine. Do you suggest sleeping in the complete darkness helps "heal" the pineal gland? Perhaps that could also prompt more vivid and lucid dreams.
    nagash     Tue, Dec 15, 2009  Permanent link
    no. darkness activates the glad, but I don't think it heals a calcified one. sleeping in complete darkness, and at the correct time (no sleeping in daytime) helps with your melatonin cycle, but there's no science yet about the effect on dreams. it's extremely likely that the pineal produces DMT when in REM sleep, but if most people today have this gland calcified, how do we still dream?

    I don't have any basis to affirm that, but I guess the pineal don't heal spontaneously.. maybe some chemicals like the Shilajit of this post could do the trick, and if you are really for a temporary solution, ayahuasca could drag you straight to the castle of morpheus ; )
    nedzen     Tue, Dec 15, 2009  Permanent link
    nagash , you might be right, I lived all my childhood in a darken room with no window outside, and I also thought a few times that this contributed to the way I think now. And I can tell you that after experimenting first time with salvia I realized that the reality I`m living in every day is so thin and it can combine with other reality very easy. This also works without taking any drugs, just thinking and visualising, constructing the reality you want to place yourself in.
    Infinitas     Wed, Dec 16, 2009  Permanent link
    it's extremely likely that the pineal produces DMT when in REM sleep, but if most people today have this gland calcified, how do we still dream?


    That's the ticket!
    TheUndying     Wed, Dec 23, 2009  Permanent link
    Everything I'm about to say could be completely irrelevant to the calcification of the pineal gland, but I thought I'd throw this out there anyway.

    I've heard that "exercising" your Pineal gland is possible through deep meditation. You know, closing your eyes, letting your mind drift into a vat of nothingness, forgetting that your eyes even exist... basically sleeping without actually being asleep, and once this level of consciousness is achieved we're able to let our subconscious mind take control, thus we dream without actually being asleep. I've been reading up on hypnosis, DMT, dreams, Edgar Cayce, and Terrence Mckenna, and what it all comes down to is the Pineal gland: our gateway into the spirit world AKA the dream world. I'm beginning to believe that the Pineal gland is responsible for the human "god complex," or the ability to recreate what is only in our minds (i.e. through art and technology).

    I read that the Pineal gland was what we once used to perceive reality before the development of eyes and ears. Certain ancient civilizations sought to connect with the dream world through a combination of psychedelics and deep meditation. We were once much more attuned to our spiritual selves, and from it we've shaped the way humanity has evolved today.

    Infinitas: I think we're still able to dream because we're still very much in touch with our pineal glands, and exercising it will allow us to become more aware of the abstract reality that is our dreams, which is key to the evolution of human intellect, in my opinion. Think about the way psychedelics effect human thought: our dream world becomes very real to us and allows us to "see around the curve" of things, temporarily.

    elenakulikova     Sun, Mar 28, 2010  Permanent link
    I am down for exercising the pineal gland - deep meditation, focusing deeply into the center above your eyes. And once, in deep meditation, in a passenger seat with my head out the window passing under sun beams strobing through the branches of trees I had a natural release / explosion of dmt … it was epic
    nagash     Fri, Apr 2, 2010  Permanent link
    elena, that's epic indeed!
    you can have a dmt burst just by thinking about it 0_o

    there are several techniques to exercise and stimulate the pineal gland...
    vedic/hindu people do it for millennia, check out this funny guy:

     
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