SpaceCollective: The Components of Thought Have Exploded

SpaceCollective: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:08:21 +0000 http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded en New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:08:21 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/meika">meika</a> wrote: <a href="http://www.librarything.com" target="_blank">Librarything.com</a> <a href="http://www.librarything.com/blog/2008/08/free-web-services-api-to-common.php" target="_blank">announces</a> (Free Web Services API to Common Knowledge) their <a href="http://www.librarything.com/services/webservices.php" target="_blank">LibraryThing Web Services API</a>. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:10:54 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: UPDATE: <a href="http://spacecollective.org/projects/The-Total-Library" target="_blank">The Total Library Project</a> is now open!! http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:33:55 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: Since the Project spaces are being opened up soon, I thought I'd try and re-ignite this conversation. What books are you going to write reviews of first? http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:14:21 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/ParanoidMystic">ParanoidMystic</a> wrote: I completely agree with this concept. Already some of my favorite posts on Space Collective have been quotes that reveal what thinkers y'all are reading. As opposed to librarything, I prefer goodreads.com — the interface is slicker and the social aspects are solid. <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/773309" target="_blank">Check my profile.</a> http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:33:27 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: It's great to see this post has made it onto the front page (in the 'popular posts' segment). Keep bumping it up! http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:22:02 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/meika">meika</a> wrote: fantastic http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:20:39 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/MissionControl">Mission Control</a> wrote: The redesigned Project spaces and Personal Collections that are currently underway will accommodate a lot of the ideas discussed. Besides additional ways of viewing content, we are also implementing a new Project Gallery - a (non-chronological) way for moderators to maintain an overview of the progress and accomplishments of a project, which could function as a library as well. As always we're listening to your ideas and will do anything possible to keep the Grand Discourse alive. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:57:18 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Robokku">Robokku</a> wrote: Sounds like you just want a cordoned-off posting area that works exactly as the main section. It should be good. I'm not sure if ranking books by popularity would lead to a list free of cliches and obvious titles, though. The most widely read books would probably have a better chance of moving on up. Still, that's life, I suppose. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:16:49 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: I think the next stage is waiting to see how the project spaces work. I am sure we can wrangle some support from the collective webmasters. Bring on the books! http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:39:37 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/meika">meika</a> wrote: Good points. In their groups section they have a BB/forum-like discussions, and others are thinking along the same lines. Apparently the difficulty lies in using the biggest open book database amazon.com which disallows APIs, <a href="http://www.librarything.com/talktopic.php?topic=5448" target="_blank">discussion here</a>:— <blockquote>We are certainly planning on releasing a full-featured API that is just what you are describing, and I'm pumped about it. We just have to find the time to do it. :)</blockquote> Also they have an <a href="http://www.librarything.com/api" target="_blank">API page</a>. We can link to books on librarything link this: <a href="http://www.librarything.com/title/voyage_of_the_dawn_treader" target="blank">http://www.librarything.com/title/voyage_of_the_dawn_treader</a> or <a href="http://www.librarything.com/isbn/1862545529" target="blank">http://www.librarything.com/isbn/1862545529</a> eg <a href="http://www.librarything.com/isbn/1862545529" target="_blank">Unearthed: The Aboriginal Tasmanians of Kangaroo Island by Rebe Taylor. Wakefield Press (2004), Paperback, 390 pages</a> Tags are done like this: <a href="http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=Singularity Fiction" target="_blank">http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=Singularity%20Fiction</a> (Feel free to add more books to that tag!) No way of limiting a tag's use to a particular group, nor to admin a group to a particular set of users. So for minor hackers and tweakers we could generate librarything links in our posts easily enough. A library project on spacecollective could oversee a usage of librarything data though. <a href="http://spacecollective.org/meika/2843/Singularity-Fiction-my-reading-pathway" target="_blank">In my post</a> I used amazon.com links but I will be using librarything's social context from now on. It's still early days for librarything. The plus side for <a href="http://www.librarything.com" target="_blank">librarything</a> is that real libraries are using it, including my local State library here in Tasmania. Not just amazon data (tend to be best for post dotcom boom titles really). But for it to work generally we'd need some support from spacecollective webmaster designers. While I dont like cluttering interfaces, for a particular library/canon retro-media project, tools could be included in the entry options bar, such that for a library/canon project an additonal link button dedicated (for example) to librarything would be nice. The button would create a link for a post and add book to a list on spacecollective, preferably with a tag, including suggester's name tag. thoughts anyone? http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:43:54 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: I like the simplicity of librarything, but it disallows reviews and or reasons for additions to a Collective library. Any list of books added as part of a Project would have its foundations in reviews and overviews rather than simply being just a list. If there was any way we could easily combine the two systems that would be more than perfect... http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:42:06 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/meika">meika</a> wrote: I've thought about a similar thing in recent days! But let's not do it here. Except in discussion... So I suggest we agree on creating a tag at <a href="http://www.librarything.com/" target="_blank">librarything</a>, (it's a site designed for exactly this type of thing) and we can do it over there. Tag suggestion spacecadetcanon?? Quite a <a href="http://www.librarything.com/catalog/meika" target="_blank">few titles in my list </a>are on it for exactly the reasons in this post. We are creating a new wikified <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_canon" target="_blank">canon</a>. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:42:31 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: I like the idea suggested in the Borges quote. A veritable labyrinth of inter-connected book reviews would mirror the mental map that Space Collective has so far tried to convey. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:54:28 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/b10">b10</a> wrote: talk about a database nightmare ;) That aside I think this is a worthwhile project, and such a list of books I think would help to further define the general ideas that excite people on this site. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:13:19 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/MichaelGarrett">Michael Garrett</a> wrote: <blockquote>A book is more than a verbal structure or series of verbal structures; it is the dialogue it establishes with its reader and the intonation it imposes upon his voice and the changing and durable images it leaves in his memory. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.</blockquote> —-Jorge Luis Borges—- http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:00:42 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: Absolutely. The library would be for original reviews, overviews and / or criticisms. I suppose once a book has been reviewed then the comments section would act as a good place for criticisms or links to similar books etc. It would be great if categories could be used to classify books into appropriate tag headers. Then searching through the library would be made much, much easier. Also, using categories a distinction could be made between 'classics' (such as Einstein and Pinker) and 'unknowns' (i.e. books that people feel should be much better known). http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:18:36 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/sjef">sjef</a> wrote: Yeah a library project would work quite well in the current system with 1 post per book using promotions & synapses to create some order. I'd be keen to contribute for sure. It should also be encouraged that the overviews/reviews/criticisms are original material written by the poster, as that would prevent blind list posting, and an opinion with some context adds more value by providing a better starting point for discussion than just re-hashed stuff from elsewhere. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:40:37 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Rourke">Rourke</a> wrote: sjef: I see your point. It would be nice to concentrate on less obvious titles, but of course the list would be incomplete without the names you mention. If it were possible for members of Space Collective to vote on the books they think are crucial to the library then the list would eventually categorise itself. If book overviews/reviews/criticisms are written through the Collective post system and then added to the Library Project then promotions from the community would have this effect on the list. I look forward immensely to the final opening of the project system. Please do favourite or promote this post if you would like to take part in compiling the proposed library of thought exploding titles. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded New comment on: The Components of Thought Have Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:34:06 +0000 Rourke 2790 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/sjef">sjef</a> wrote: The list is a good idea, but I don't know about the exclusion of 'cliches', as they are relative to ones prior knowledge. What may seem cliche to you or I could contain a complete new wealth of education to another and there's no way to tell where to draw the line. It would be unwise to discount certain works simply because they are well known. I mean, if Kurzweil and Hawking are out, then should Einstein, Darwin, Pinker, Clarke, Asimov etc all be discounted as well? http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/2790/The-Components-of-Thought-Have-Exploded