http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:38:15 +0000 http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors en http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:38:15 +0000 Rourke 6264 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/Wildcat">Wildcat</a> wrote:<br /><br />“The Thing Itself, the world beneath phenomenon, and the Things that inhabit it, have always been impossible to comprehend. Where science fiction takes us, kicking and screaming, is right back to the real world, our knuckles a little whiter from the journey.”<br /> <br /> Well, maybe and maybe not. I have enjoyed thoroughly your post however the main issue I have concerns the so-called ‘thing in itself’, this of course is a metaphysical proposition to which we have never had access and maybe never will. The main reason might probably be surmised to intone the refrain ‘there is no such thing as the thing in itself’. And therefore the only ‘thing’ if thing it is, is a complex multiphased and multidimensional reality that is a coagulation of things extended to different descriptions of existence some of which we call things and others which we call the space these inhabit. <br /> Given the above assumption, and to be able to make sense of the different descriptive layers our minds entertain, we may need start by redefining the very concept of identification and authenticity.<br /> <br /> At what point is a perfect copy of a dog not a dog, but a copy of a dog? <br /> <br /> Put differently, under what conditions is a copy a valid assessment of description?<br /> http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:00:24 +0000 Rourke 6264 <a href="http://spacecollective.org/gamma">gamma</a> wrote:<br /><br />I do not understand your post and cannot unravel its content, but while trying to, I had an idea. I always tend to think through or explain the alternative reality and it does not prevent me from enjoying movies. Some satisfy the criteria of the brain in one or more categories. They are true to the human senses. <br /> <br /> The &quot;truth&quot; is rich in content or intense, energetic, aesthetic, scientific... its novel. http://spacecollective.org/Rourke/6264/And-Another-Thing-SciFi-Truths-and-Natures-Errors