Schmuck     Sat, Mar 26, 2011  Permanent link
An interesting argument.

I think the clones would diverge in their actions because, while being in identical conditions and atomically synonymous, they both exist spatially within the same universe. The rooms do not exist as controls to the experiment, as they vary spatially. They are part of the same universe, and so are interwoven to it, with any small variation anywhere in the universe having the potential to adversely affect the conditions of the rooms and the agents within them in potentially different ways, with any kind of range of severity.

Were each room and clone to exist in a different universe, identical in every way, I would think that each would then act out in an identical manner.

However, saying that, ramifications could transfer across the 9th dimension, affecting different universes, and altering the experiment.

For me, this argument provokes the idea of individuality in existence, whether anything is identical in a 4 dimensional plane across any version of universe.

For the most part, its far beyond my scope of expertise or intelligence, but it's a provoking idea nevertheless.

QESelf     Sat, Mar 26, 2011  Permanent link
I am glad you found it thought provoking.

I do however think there is more going on here than simply our inability to account for both space and time simultaneously. Obviously we could easily modify the thought experiment so that instead of the copies occurring at the same time, they instead occupy the same space but are carried out at different times.

Quantum physics suggests the divergence in both cases will be statistically equal. In other words if we created 10 copies of rooms+clones in space and 10 copies in time, the divergence between all 20 copies would be statistically indistinguishable from each other (i.e. purely random).

However, if we were to simulate the above on a Turning Machine using Newtonian / Relativity algorithms all 20 copies would evolve identically.

To me the "idea of individuality in existence" is definitely the most interesting part of the argument. Physical things are able to separate from and merge with other things and thus individuality is malleable. I think if we fully understand the relationship between copies and transformation we will then have the tools we need to achieve a physical transfer from any mind substrate to any other.