shandoraWed, Oct 22, 2008 Hello wildcat, always a pleasure to take part in ventures such as SC and Polytopia.
I Iike much the manner in which you describe the triangle: intelligence - consciousness – awareness - Entangled. As you say the tension between those concepts brings about an unstoppable drive, which brought us thus far. Let me ask the following: If, as you suggest, there potentially can emerge conscious phenomena without the aspect of self awareness, will it still have any drive to expand or self-iterate (like the human race is continuously doing)? I looked up the term “Nirvana” in Wikipedia and found this:
“'Nirvana” is a Sanskrit word that literally means "to cease blowing" or "extinguishing" as when a candle flame ceases to flicker.
Sounds to me as the ultimate antithesis to the intelligence - consciousness – awareness crisis. Is this what you meant regarding a consciousness phenomena which is not self-aware?
Another thought here... Can a phenomena emerge which is both conscious and driven ( or in your words, exists in tension of I-C-A) yet does not rely on its self awareness ( if it has one at all ) for that drive? It might even be polytopian :-)
I will answer your question about the percentile representation of consciousness/awareness in another comment.
Hello wildcat, always a pleasure to take part in ventures such as SC and Polytopia.
I Iike much the manner in which you describe the triangle: intelligence - consciousness – awareness - Entangled. As you say the tension between those concepts brings about an unstoppable drive, which brought us thus far. Let me ask the following: If, as you suggest, there potentially can emerge conscious phenomena without the aspect of self awareness, will it still have any drive to expand or self-iterate (like the human race is continuously doing)? I looked up the term “Nirvana” in Wikipedia and found this:
Sounds to me as the ultimate antithesis to the intelligence - consciousness – awareness crisis. Is this what you meant regarding a consciousness phenomena which is not self-aware?
Another thought here... Can a phenomena emerge which is both conscious and driven ( or in your words, exists in tension of I-C-A) yet does not rely on its self awareness ( if it has one at all ) for that drive? It might even be polytopian :-)
I will answer your question about the percentile representation of consciousness/awareness in another comment.