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Stuart Dobson (M)
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Social Rebirth
We all change. The future is emergent and dynamic, evolving with our minds and our society. Technology plays a fundamental part in this evolution, this evolution of complexity. So I ask, how does technology affect society? How does technology affect our minds and then society in turn? How does our economic and political system affect society and technology? What are the products of this evolution – and what are our goals?
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    BenRayfield     Sun, Oct 30, 2011  Permanent link
    You said
    This time the protests are attempting to change the game itself.

    For the elite "1%", this is not an option.

    I agree they would do almost anything within their power to stop us from changing the game. That's not a problem, because they can't stop a change that they can't define or understand or refer to in their communications, because its too abstract to fit in their minds. They don't have the power to stop this game changer. My plans are just one way to do it, examples of an overall change in the way the Human species organizes itself. I can't stop it, and neither can the corporations. But since I understand it some, I can influence it toward a better future for everyone. Here's how...

    I won't be protesting on the streets either, as long as we still have the ability to communicate, including the communication of open source software with other software through the internet. My plans to change the world depend on communication.

    I wrote about how pointless this whole global system of fighting eachother is, on the side of the protesters and the corporations. They're both keeping eachother in business.

    In that kurzweilai thread, I described the part of my bigger plans that connects it into the way global power flows, and this part is more relevant:

    This can be a peaceful revolution. Since confidence is the only real kind of political power or money, and attacking a politician implies you think he is powerful enough that getting rid of him would change something, then attacking a politician creates more confidence in the system he represents and gives that system more power. That is exactly why some of the Wall Street Protesters said that getting arrested or the authorities abusing them helps the movement, because it implies the global powers have confidence in the Wall Street Protesters' ability to succeed. Only extremists believe in peace.

    ...but overall its one idea in many contexts. Here's the main idea:
    The plan is to network our minds together at the conscious and subconscious and metaphysical levels through interactive psychology of feedback loops between many user-interfaces in a global scale-free peer-to-peer network, like mouse movements (2 dimensions), evolving Java code that reads from microphone and writes to speakers (wave amplitude per channel is position, 44100 per second), mind reading game controllers like Emotiv Epoc or OpenEEG, OpenOSC musical instrument protocol, Nintendo Wii controllers (6 dimensions each), Wikipedia-like systems mapping out our ideas (each as a dimension), or anything that can be represented as streaming vectors. Using any or all these devices at once in the global network, we get past the details of specific devices and identity and view everyone as one space of many dimensions, a continuous connected streaming readable and writable view of everyones' statistical patterns of thinking, amplifying eachothers' intelligence and creativity and emotions
    * Is a big mess of things I created while trying to figure out the answer to life, the universe, and everything, but now I consider version 0.6.3 to be possibilities of implementation details instead of important to the core algorithm, which is to maximize quineness of its internal mental state including all inputs and outputs, like Nash Equilibrium in Game Theory or fractals or the universe are all examples of quines.
    * After networking many peoples' minds together, and after we all learn how eachother think at least statistically a little, people will start to see the extreme inefficiency of violence and hate, and wars and governments and money will become obsolete. People just don't understand how the world works, so they fight about how to fix things they don't understand. Through this system, or build your own mind-combining system if you don't like it, we will learn to work together on a global scale, which has to start by understanding how eachother think subconsciously.

    Lets bring back the hippie movement and defeat the corporations with peace, love, and music, this time amplified by artificial intelligence to network our minds together. That's why we'll win this time. Life is a positive-sum-game. Everyone can win.

    You said
    It is about becoming the change you want to see.

    Exactly. Every time I talk to people, even if they think I'm crazy, I imprint a better way of thinking into their minds, the same as watching propaganda on the news will get many to hate terrorists and advocate war and corporations. I don't hate terrorists, because people are all fighting about how to fix problems they don't understand. Instead, I help them understand the problems.
    Beatrix      Tue, Nov 1, 2011  Permanent link
    Lets bring back the hippie movement and defeat the corporations with peace, love, and music, this time amplified by artificial intelligence to network our minds together. That's why we'll win this time. Life is a positive-sum-game. Everyone can win.

    nom the puppet     Thu, Nov 3, 2011  Permanent link
    agreed, learning a skill or trade is your best defense, and prime among them should be the skill of making friends
    CoCreatr     Fri, Nov 18, 2011  Permanent link
    Here is another take

    Richard Branson: 'Capitalism has lost its way'
    Virgin entrepreneur and new owner of Northern Rock says he wants businesses to transform themselves along ethical lines
    gamma     Sat, Nov 19, 2011  Permanent link
    Well, I always had a positive view on the world and never believed that anything really bad could happen. In a way, I am not well-informed for this discussion. I think that the emotions tend to rise before the summation of facts. It is as if some new kind of disrespect for the old lifestyle has grown, and I don't like it to be as if we are bad students who don't wish to work or cooperate. For that matter, I don't wish to go to work :-) If you know how the economy works, can you go over the notions and straight to the rearrangement of it elements?
    AsylumSeaker     Mon, Dec 12, 2011  Permanent link
    For me, the occupy thing isn't so much about forcing change, it's not the protest part that matters. It's more about conceptualising, discussing, testing and the putting into action new ways to collaborate. It's an attempt to merge internet culture, participatory culture, with social and political action.
    CoCreatr     Mon, Dec 12, 2011  Permanent link
    Authorities are learning effective and nonviolent dispersal.

    Another example of OWS techniques being used by authorities by Richard Gayle