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i am an eXperiment. a Syncopated word & image coLLage imported from Our minD sEnse-thoUght collective stream. a trial 2 eXpress the aRhythmia & the off beat that lies in-betwEEn the bond made of: imAge narrative & senSation. an aEsthetic act and aim of WondeR in the search for a CRaCK. as for if anything eXists at all it exisTs i n - b e T w e e n.
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    2 uncommon reflections on the present future

    Reflection 1

    But now science, incited by its powerful delusion, speeds on inexorably right to its limits, at which point the optimism hidden in the essence of logic fails. For the circumference of the circle of science has an infinity of points, and while it is still impossible to see how that circumference could ever be completely measured, nevertheless the noble, talented man, before the middle of his life, inevitably comes up against some border point on that circumference, where he stares at something which cannot be illuminated. When, at this point, he sees to his horror how logic turns around on itself and finally bites its own tail, then a new form of knowledge breaks through, the acknowledgement of the tragic, which in order merely to be endured,requires art as a protector and healer.

    Reflection 2

    Is pessimism necessarily the sign of collapse, destruction, and disaster, of the exhausted and enfeebled instinct, as it was among the Indians, as it is now, to all appearances, among us “modern” peoples and Europeans? Is there a pessimism of the strong? An intellectual inclination for what in existence is hard, dreadful, angry, and problematic, emerging from what is healthy, from overflowing well being, from living existence to the full? Is there perhaps a way of suffering from the very fullness of life, a tempting courage of the keenest sight which demands what is terrible, like an enemy—a worthy enemy—against which it can test its power, from which it will learn what “to fear” means?

    This Quote-Collage was composed by Spaceweaver which kindly agreed to be a guest of honor on this page (at least 4 this single time, at this collective space .... -) many Thanks.

    image : Yves Klein, at the Guggenheim museum Bilbao.
    text : Friedrich Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy, 1872. (translation by Ian Johnston, 2000).
    video : sound & video artist Ryoji Ikeda, Data Matrix, Live at the Sonar, 2010.

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    Wildcat     Tue, Jun 12, 2012  Permanent link
    The greatness (and the pitfall) of our minds is our ability to select the exact quote we desire from a given text and re-integrate it in a manner that is, to say the least, fitting a different context than the original one. In Deleuze’s 'Nietzsche and Philosophy', for instance, Deleuze re-reads and re-systematizes the thought of Nietzsche in such a fashion as to be utterly unrecognizable, one should ask therefore under what conditions does a quote as in the above collage represents in any fashion the original ‘autheur’?

    Selection is transformation.
    gamma     Tue, Jun 12, 2012  Permanent link
    video : sound & video artist Ryoji Ikeda, Data Matrix, Live at the Sonar, 2010.

    Amazing video performance! 
    gamma     Tue, Jun 12, 2012  Permanent link
    under what conditions does a quote as in the above collage represents in any fashion the original ‘autheur’?

    Spaceweaver     Tue, Jun 12, 2012  Permanent link
    one should ask therefore under what conditions does a quote as in the above collage represents in any fashion the original ‘autheur’?

    Whole volumes could have been written just in pursuit of clearly posing this question and not fewer in trying to answer it... Just to give a taste of the depth of the issue, who is that 'original' autheur? The two quotes assembled here were written ten years or more apart. Was it the same individual writing them? Was the earlier more original than the second? Or, was the later one, the seasoned philosopher, reflecting on the writings of his own younger person, the original? And this is only the beginning since I have selected these quotes out of 3 different translations, each with its nuanced wording... The other two so remote in my eyes I would never have considered them at all. ...and this is only the tip of the iceberg.

    I would rather give up the idea of 'original' in this sense and would describe the "quoting" as representing not the autheur but rather an interaction between minds. The author and the reader and the reader who is again the author here (and again in an indefinite motion of reflections).

    I could not agree more that selection is transformation. It is a triple transformation to be more concise: the transformation of the text, the transformation of the reader and the transformation of the author. Needless to say that this trinity keeps sending its rhyzomatic tentacles further yet as it becomes apparent even from these very comments.

    As a final note to this very brief response two remarks:
    1. Not every selection and not every interaction between minds such as the one mentioned above merit the same significance in terms of its transformative effects.
    2. In transformation, of course not everything goes. It is rarely noticed but transformation necessarily disguises subtler continuities without which we could not possibly reflect on something transforming into something else. It was indeed Deleuze who relocated this disguised continuity from the transcendental observer (who could as if do 'everything she likes') to the object undergoing transformation and its virtual structure and properties. What makes the whole process of selection credible is that it never neglects this disguised continuity as much as it may stretch the actual superficial appearance.

    Thanks for the thoughtful comment and also thanks to Syncopath for hosting me.